Tuesday, July 26, 2016

Did the Qur'an get the trinity wrong or do the Christians invent lies about the Qur'an?

Did the Qur'an get the trinity wrong or do the Christians invent lies about the Qur'an?

4:171 O People of the Book, do not commit excess in your religion and do not say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and (wa) a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Glory be to Him, that He (should) have a son for Him. To Him whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

(“Trinity” means “group of three”, so “three” in the Qur’an refers to “trinity”. The word “trinity” is not in the Bible. In regard to the Qur’an, Verse 4:171 explicitly says, “do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you”, so the concept of “trinity / three” is wrong)(Verse 4:171 explicitly mentions God, Jesus and the Spirit; so the Qur’an mentions in this Verse who are the “three” (according to Christians), but the Verse says that two of them (Jesus and the Spirit/Angel) are not God, but God’s Messengers. The root of “ruhi” (spirit) is “Ra-Waw-Ha”, and it also means “inspiration, revelation, angel of revelation, etc.”. “Inspiration / revelation” can imply “conveying a message” (42:51), that’s a Messenger’s duty (16:35, 16:82, 24:54). The spirit / angel is called “Messenger” in Verses 19:17-19)(An interpretation of the sentence “and a spirit from Him” is that the spirit is a Messenger as well, because Verse 4:171 says, “was but a messenger of Allah” referring to both, Jesus and the spirit/Angel. Then the next sentence says, “So believe in Allah and His messengers” (“messengers” in plural). Verses 19:17-19 also confirm that the Spirit is only a Messenger of God)(Note: the word “wa” (and), mentioned in the sentence “and a spirit from Him”, does not specify order or timing, so it refers to “Messenger”, previously mentioned)(Another sentence says, “and His word which He directed to Mary” (4:171)(in regard to Jesus); one interpretation is that Jesus is His word because God created Jesus saying “Be”, and he was (3:59). And “His word which He directed to Mary” implies that Jesus was created in Mary’s womb. The creation of Jesus is like the creation of Adam, there was no sexual relation between a man and a woman, but the word was directed to Mary (4:171). The miraculous conception does not make them a deity, but Adam and Jesus are “created” beings/”creation”, rather than “the Creator”. According to the context, it should not be interpreted that “His word” in Verse 4:171 means that Jesus does not speak on his own but delivers God’s Message (38:8, 7:203), because the context is about a word directed to Mary)(According to Verse 19:17, the Spirit “appeared to her in the likeness of a well-proportioned man”, and the Spirit says about himself that he is only a Messenger of God (“I am only a Messenger from your Lord”(19:19)). The Spirit or Holy Spirit is believed to be Gabriel. Verse 6:9 supports that “if We had made him an Angel, certainly We would have made him a man”. So the Angel does not appear to a human as an Angel, but as a human)(On the other hand, God cannot become human. Humans are created weak (4:28), while God is All-Powerful/the Creator; only the weak/created ones are human)(The Bible, in Numbers 23:19, confirms that God cannot become human, “God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?”)(See the link below, “If God is so powerful, why can’t He become a man or have a son?“)(Allah knows best)

22:75 Allah chooses Messengers from the Angels, and from mankind. Indeed, Allah is All-Hearer, All-Seer.

26:192 And indeed, it is surely a Revelation of the Lord of the worlds. 26:193 The Spirit [the] Trustworthy has brought it down,

5:116 And when Allah said, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, "Take me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?" He said, "Glory be to You, it was not for me to say what I had no right. If I had said it, then surely You would have known it. You know what is in myself, and I do not know what is in Yourself. Indeed, You, You are All-Knower of the unseen.

(Some Christians say that the Qur’an got the trinity wrong in Verse 5:116, but they are just inventing lies about the Qur’an, because there is no mention of “trinity” (aka “three”) in Verse 5:116, but of a fact that still persist in some Christian sects (e.g. Catholics are devoted to “virgin Mary” and they ask her for things, so they commit idolatry / shirk))(The Qur’an refers to “trinity” when “three” is explicitly mentioned. Actually, Verse 4:171 mentions “three”, and also mentions who are the “three” (“God”, “Jesus” and “Spirit”), according to Christians. See above the comment on Verse 4:171)(Another point is that, in Verse 5:116, Jesus is questioned, only about himself and his mother, but not about the Spirit, because Angels do not disobey (16:49-50), and God says the Truth (33:4), and Mary was not a Prophet, so only Jesus is questioned in his duty (5:116), about himself and his mother, who are the ones who were living among people. The context of Verse 5:116 is obviously other than telling you who are the trinity, but exposing Christian nonsense. Christians are the ones who believe that God is three, and, in addition, Christian sects are the ones who ask Mary for things, as if she were a deity)(The Verses of the Qur’an are diversified, and are not mutually exclusive. So, for example, Verse 16:51 says “do not take for yourselves two deities”. The mention of “two” obviously does not refer to “three”, but Christians are just making assumptions about matters which are not mentioned in the Qur’an (e.g. the Qur’an does not explicitly or implicitly say that Mary is a member of the trinity, but exposes a specific fact in Christianity))(Allah knows best)

5:73 They have certainly disbelieved, those who say, "Indeed, Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except the One God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, a painful punishment will surely afflict those who disbelieved among them. 5:74 So will they not turn to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

(The trinitarians are disbelievers (5:73))(Allah knows best)

5:75 The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a Messenger, certainly Messengers had passed before him. And his mother was truthful. They both used to eat food. See how We make clear to them the Signs; then see how they are deluded.

16:51 And Allah has said, "Do not take two gods. He is only One God. So fear Me Alone."

(The mention of “do not take two gods” does not imply that there is no one who believe in more than two gods)(Allah knows best)

16:102 Say, "The Holy Spirit has brought it down from your Lord in truth, to make firm those who believe and as guidance and glad tidings to the Muslims."

19:17 Then she took a screen from them. Then We sent to her Our Spirit, then he appeared to her in the likeness of a well-proportioned man. … 19:19 He said, "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, that I may bestow on you a pure son."

(The Spirit is only a Messenger of God)(Allah knows best)

9:30 And the Jews said, "Uzair is son of Allah." And the Christians said, "Messiah is son of Allah." That is their saying with their mouths, they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before. (May) Allah destroy them. How deluded are they.

46:27 And certainly We destroyed of the towns that surround you, and We have diversified the Signs / Verses, that they may return.

(The Verses are diversified (46:27); so Verse 4:171 speaks about the trinity, and other Verses might not; but have different contexts; for example, Verse 3:59 mentions God, Jesus and Adam, and it obvious that it does not speak about the trinity, but the Verse compares Jesus and Adam)(Allah knows best)

5:103 Allah has not made Bahirah, Saibah, Wasilah, and Hami. But those who disbelieved, they invent a lie against Allah, and most of them do not use reason.

See also: Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat daughters of God? Did the Qur'an tell Muslims to worship them?

http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/were-al-lat-al-uzza-and-manat-daughters.html

See also: Is Jesus God or the son of God?

https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/02/is-jesus-god-or-son-of-god.html

See also: Is Christianity a pagan religion?

https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/is-christianity-pagan-religion.html

See also: Is shirk forgivable? (shirk = idolatry or polytheism)

http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/02/is-shirk-forgivable.html

See also: If God is so powerful, why can’t He become a man or have a son?

https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/09/if-god-is-so-powerful-why-cant-he.html

See also: How the Qur’an corrects Christianity?

http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/08/how-quran-corrects-christianity.html

See also: How the Qur’an corrects Catholicism?

https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/11/how-quran-corrects-catholicism.html

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