Wednesday, March 22, 2017

Is there any evidence that any Pharaoh considered himself the one and only god? Is Verse 28:38 in direct contradiction with Verse 7:127?

Is there any evidence that any Pharaoh considered himself the one and only god? Is Verse 28:38 in direct contradiction with Verse 7:127?

79:15 Has there come to you the story of Moses? 79:16 When his Lord called him in the sacred valley of Tuwa, 79:17 "Go to Pharaoh. Indeed, he has transgressed. 79:18 And say, "Would you purify yourself? 79:19 And I will guide you to your Lord so that you would fear." 79:20 Then he showed him the great sign. 79:21 But he denied and disobeyed. 79:22 Then he turned his back, striving, 79:23 And he gathered and called out, 79:24 Then he said, "I am your Lord, the Most High." 79:25 So Allah seized him with an exemplary punishment for the last and the first.

(Pharaoh said “I am your Lord, the Most High”, but he did not say “there is no deity except me” or that he was “the one and only god”, so some non-Muslims invented lies about this Verse. Pharaoh’s sentence implies that he said about himself that he was the lord of his people, because he said “I am YOUR Lord” (79:24), but it does not imply that he does not believe in “other deities”)(Pharaohs were believed to be gods, quoting the article “Ancient Egyptian religion” in wikipedia, “many mortuary temples were dedicated to the worship of deceased pharaohs as gods”. This is also confirmed by pyramid texts, (hymn 485C), which says of the king that “there is no limb of mine devoid of God. May I ascend and lift myself up to heaven as the great star in the midst of the East” (This is written in the first person, so he believed himself to be it))(Some Egyptian names indicate that they believed themselves to be divine, for example, in regard to the false deity “Amun”: “Tutankhamun” (living image of Amun); “Siamun” (son of Amun))(Source: the article “pyramidhymns” in “egyptorigins(dot)org”)(Note: the comments on this post are an interpretation, supported by other Verses, so there is no contradiction in the Qur’an. Even if there was an incongruence or contradiction in Pharaoh’s belief, the Qur’an exposes the disbelievers’ false statements, so Pharaoh and the chiefs would be the ones who contradict themselves, not the Qur’an. The Qur’an says in regard to disbelievers, “most of them do not reason” (5:103). Likewise, Christians believe that God is One, and also three; this is incongruous; the Qur’an exposes their mistake, rather than trying to make it look congruent or coherent)(Allah knows best)

28:38 And Pharaoh said, "O chiefs, I do not know of (a) god (min ilahin) for you other than me. So (fa) kindle upon the clay for me, O Haman, and make for me a lofty tower so that I may look at the God of Moses. And indeed, I think he is of the liars."

(In Verse 28:38, Pharaoh believed himself to be a god “for them/the chiefs”, because the sentence is addressed to the chiefs, so using “for you” could imply that he is not saying that he is the one and only god, so there is no contradiction. And the context is that his sentence is in opposition to the God of Moses “for them”. In other words, Pharaoh did not know of God of Moses to be “for them”, but he knew of himself to be for them, regardless of/not rejecting other “gods” he might approve (7:123). So, “I do not know of god” refers to the God of Moses, because the next sentence starts with “fa” which indicates order and that it happens “right after” saying “I do not know of god for you other than me”, so right after saying that, he asked for a tower to look at the “God of Moses”, because he thinks Moses is of the liars)(In Verse 7:127, Pharaoh does not even mention “gods”, but the chiefs mention it, so, there is no contradiction anyhow. According to Verse 7:123, Pharaoh does not say “there is no deity except me”, but instead, it seems okay for Pharaoh that people might believe in other gods, as long as he gave permission (7:123), regardless of his personal belief. Another interpretation is that Pharaoh saw himself above “his gods”, so that the mention of “your gods” in Verse 7:127 does not imply that he sees himself below or as a servant of “his gods”, because based on Verse 7:123, he could have previously approved them, so that they are below him. In regard to Pharaoh’s belief, he believed in what he could see, because Verse 40:29 says, “I do not show you except what I see” and Verse 28:38 says “make for me a lofty tower so that I may look at the God of Moses”, and Verse 43:51 says “and these rivers flowing underneath me? Then do you not see?”, so, Pharaoh believes in what he can see (It might also include statues/images of deities))(According to Verse 40:26, Pharaoh feared that Moses would change their religion, this confirms that “of god” in Verse 28:38 refers to the God of Moses, so Pharaoh, in his talk to the chiefs, opposes Moses)(The non-Muslim claim of Pharaoh rejecting the “gods” is not supported by other Verses, because if Pharaoh believed himself to be a god, it is not a rejection of “gods” in itself, and in Verse 28:38, according to the context, Pharaoh did not know of God of Moses and he wanted to see Him)(Allah knows best)

26:29 He said, "If you take a god other than me, I will surely make you among those imprisoned."

(This sentence, by Pharaoh, is only addressed to Moses, because “you” is in the singular)(Pharaoh might give permission (7:123) to believe in other deities. And he might “possess” other deities (7:127). And Pharaoh does not want Moses to take a god other than him (26:29). If Pharaoh’s statements in these Verses are contradictory or erroneous, that’s Pharaoh’s mistake or contradiction, while the Qur’an has no mistake or contradiction, but exposes Pharaoh’s incorrect speech and disbelief)(Allah knows best)

7:127 And the chiefs of the people of Pharaoh said, "Will you leave Moses and his people so that they cause corruption in the earth and forsake you and your gods?" He said, "We will kill their sons and we will let live their women, and indeed, we are subjugators over them."

7:122 Lord of Moses and Aaron." 7:123 Pharaoh said, "You believed in him before I give you permission. Indeed, this is surely a plot you have plotted it in the city so that you may drive out its people from it. But soon you will know.

(For example, according to the article “akhenaten” in “discoveringegypt(dot)com”, the Pharaoh Akhenaten changed his name from Amenhotep (“Amun is Pleased”) to Akhenaten, or “Servant of the Aten” thus formally declaring his new religion”. The Qur’an suggests that Pharaoh did not deny the existence or possible existence of other deities. Likewise Akhenaten practiced “Henotheism” which is the worship of a single, supreme god that does not deny the existence or possible existence of other deities. But according to the Qur’an, Pharaoh (of the Exodus) believed himself to be a god. Akhenaten is not the Pharaoh of the Exodus, but in this example, we see that Pharaohs were able to choose what or who is a deity (as if they were above gods), and it was common to choose a supreme god, and pharaohs were regarded as gods, but it does not imply that they denied the existence or possible existence of other deities (Henotheism))(Allah knows best)

40:29 O my people, the kingdom is for you today, dominant in the land, but who will help us from the punishment of Allah if it came to us." Pharaoh said, "I do not show you except what I see and I do not guide you except to the right path."

43:51 And Pharaoh called out among his people; he said, "O my people, is not the kingdom of Egypt for me, and these rivers flowing underneath me? Then do you not see?

40:26 And Pharaoh said, "Leave me to kill Moses and let him call his Lord. Indeed, I fear that he will change your religion or he may cause corruption to appear in the land."

See also: Is the Qur'an scientifically correct? (5) (History)

http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/09/response-to-jay-smith-can-god-have-son.html

See also: Is the Qur'an scientifically correct? (0) (Index)

https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/04/is-quran-scientifically-correct-2.html

See also: Is there any contradiction in the Qur'an? (0) (Index) https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/03/refutation-of-so-called-internal.html

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